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That something is something rather than nothing is that it is word.

That it is (exists), is nonsense sense, or the bullshit that is the mayhem, i.e., the something that nothing is.

Main thread continues: #n04

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#n01.01 Ronald Green

Pierre Rousseau So "it" doesn't refer to anything. It is word, like everything else. So no word refers to anything, not even itself. And words don't exist and don't do anything. So words are nothing, which itself is nothing. But "is" denotes something, yet it is nothing. So nothing refers to not nothing, which is, of course, something, which itself is word. And we are back to where we started, except that we don't exist because "we" is word.

#n01.02 Yes, that is the formal, normal and natural bullshit that is the mayhem, the notion that word is nothing.

... if the syntax implies existence, as it does, by virtue of the nonsense that it is in action and functions... or "does."

#n01.03 Ronald Green

No, of course word is not nothing

#n01.04 Ronald Green, I'll have to paraphrase my so-called conversation in the group Non-dual Conversations which got me cancelled from the group about 30 hours ago, I think. Some of it is here:

20210422 and 20210423

Much of it is not there but in directly quoted form on my computer, but it is a private group, so I'll have to describe what the comebacks were.

#n01.05 The problem is not "is" but the conflation of "is" to imply existence. The "is" as description that things exist ("A is") is what inevitably comes to the conclusion (by virtue of such bullshit "is" as meaning being and being in action) that word is ultimately nothing, or rather suffers the mental gymnastics of the infinitesimal or nothingness. "A is B" is not the same "is" as "A is." "A is B" is word. "A is" is word as if it is not word.

#n01.06 Existence is an item of such superfundamentalistic faith, it leaves Lewis Carroll in the dust.

#n01.07 Denial of nearly everything as supposedly nothingness is virtually nothing, and so everything is virtually virtual, which for all practical purposes in a world integral with practice, is nothing.

#n01.08 Ronald Green

Pierre Rousseau “Virtually nothing” makes no sense.

#n01.09 Exactly. And that is what "existence," or integral spacetime is, the integration of points.

... as if not a point.

#n01.10 Existence is incommensurate with symbol or meaning. Symbol that is meaning is not separate from such meaning. It is meaning. Parts separate from wholes are not the same things, whatsoever.

#n01.11 Everything is word.

#n01.12 The self-contradiction is existence, or language in terms of existential, ontological and pragmatic perception and syntax.

#n01.13 Thad Roberts would answer (as and by the self-contradiction, Existence) that the physical world is not infinite or infinitesimal, but quantized, YET that such quantization is in terms of the human mind(consciousness)'s perceptual limits, the Planck metrics, and that higher "ontological" dimensions of space AND time than that would explain the determinism that existence requires for potentially existing to indefinite ontological resolution.

His supposedly mind-blowing symbolically mathematical, indexically referential and iconically superfluid integration of such logic is more word. It is not more than word.

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The five fundamental Planck metrics of spacetime: the measurable spacetime minima 1) Planck length (lp), and 2) Planck time (tp) and the maxima possible at the minimum spacetime, 3) Planck mass (mp), Planck charge (qp), and Planck temperature (Tp).

#n01.15 The idea that the sensory image or imagination (icon) and common sense reference or text (index) are not word (symbol), but signify something the symbol consists of, and therefore nearly completely incompletely references, is the abject nonsense that is the abyss.

#n01.16 Thad Roberts has been invited to join point-i several times. He says he does not understand me. Well, of course not, begging the question ad hominem (if not individually, then collectively) is the ontological imperative.

#n02

https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/conscious-interiority-and-the-language-trap/

"Language is the problem," is the reason Psychology is the real psychic tyranny.

Brian J. McVeigh,

The "formal, normal and natural reason," always now, is that "humanity must heal, individually and collectively [and someone must do it]." But what if that story is mere extension of the atomically self-fulfilling mythology of The Fall?

What if authoritarian autocracy (sic) of ontological societal complexification itself is the corruption of meaning by which the social construct convenient to such then abysmal presumptuousness "grounds" itself?

Then the circular theme of imagination, text and reality is the downward spiral and no extent of calling it non-word words like "progress" and blaming word "in the process" can save it.

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One of the most ironically tragic elements of the downward spiral is the medical profession: zombified, junkified and crazied in its slavish subservience to the pharmaceutical mental order.

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Main Thread continued from #n01

On 20210421 Brian McVeigh blatantly says

After considering this troublesome and ambiguous word — i.e., consciousness — for many years I prefer to use “conscious interiority” to inject much-needed clarity. This term suggests a spatialness or the belief that a mental space exists “in” the head in which a self moves about, psychological events and processes transpire, and where we experience quasi-perceptions (introceptions).

The point is that the idea of any spatialness in terms of any perceptions whatsoever is the circular construct of the Platonic cave as meaning that is mere reference to mere meaning, with an ever more regressive inside and outside as the supposedly ever-transcendent story emerges. Until it is the godly holy and sublime devilishness, nothingness, hallowed as everything, and sublimely explained in terms of everything, namely not what anything is (meaning), but why and how it "exists."

Or the intersubjective field signified with chronically fake noble transference to the other (including the self) in fawning countertransference of humble meditation. So, what existence is — in terms of its own wordy word-subversive terminology, with the glaring paradox as the farcical sacredness — is utter self-contradiction or truly what nothing is.

Continued next day:
20210426#n01
The nonsense "consciousness" in the deep state terms of the new inner-spatialized ontology nonsense

#n05

Existence is the bullshit that is the mayhem.

Ontological spacetime, relativity and quanta, formal, normal or natural, or but in terms of the subject as the subject's subjectivity are the nonsense that is the abyss of its chronic self-contradiction as the holy paradox, Existence — to which it is in digital or quantized measure but infinitesimal or nothingness.

#n06

“When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.”

― Abraham Joshua Heschel

The reason is that kindness (like mindfulness) masks, cloaks and facilitates the nonsense that cleverness is.

Soth de Witan

That seems to suggest that kindness is a deception?

Kindness is deception, but not simply that. Everything is word, so in the full so-called "ontological" archetype-mythological context of the imagination, text and reality that things "exist," kindness is one of many self-deceptions (and fallacies and mental disorders) as reason for the chronic intersubjective deception that riddles all meaning.

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